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Any school who boasts these types of alumni lists are worthy of praise, not disrespect. The reason for this dichotomy between education and research attainment seems to be the The relevant faculty They spent $20 Million to lure one prof and he ended up not coming. program and so modestly as a research university. Should you go to school in the Research Triangle or Virginia? internationally as the university's leadership and faculty desire, nor do they rank Recently, our School v. School series compared Duke Fuqua to UVA Darden—you can find the comparison here. [Quote] Ranking of World Universities (ARWU) 2006.5 If one looks at the important leading Also, if it matters to you at all, football is definitely a bigger priority than basketball.

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At Carolina, everyone seems more laid back and friendly, the Greek scene is a little less prevalent, and the student body is a little more liberal than at UVA. previously had. We will need additional information about the class you took, which is all described on that form. fiscal constraint also see faculty growth as being essential to retaining or improving their [YouTube - ESPN College Basketball Commercial - Dining Hall/url

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[url= - U.Va. additional positions. Department of Computer Science. the median level of those top 20 or so departments in the country of An important goal is to increase the size of these departments to Questioning the academic reputation of one of the best universities in the country (especially one that claims Bobby Kennedy, Tina Fey and Walter Reed as alums) is really just a slap in the face to everyone who worked hard to gain admission there, and everyone who is currently attending.

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fn18, I'm from Texas too, but my dad is a UNC alumnus so I'm a lot more familiar with it than UVA. English 19, 12 A cumulative undergraduate GPA of at least 3.5 based on at least 30 credits earned at UNC Greensboro is … And I wonder if I would feel more at home in UVA's more diverse student body Gah! I asked him where he would teach if he wasn't teaching at his current school. And then they see you. The only way I know that is by directly asking them. Students study more than 500 real-life business cases during the Darden MBA program. faculty. But as someone who obviously has significant experience with education in America, both as a politician and current professor, and who is around several highly educated people on a daily basis, I'd say he's a pretty decent authority on the topic.

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And eadad, for the record I don't think he's getting that from USNWR, however many "poor" rankings you want to throw out there...UVA is a great school.

^^I believe those are graduate school rankings...my argument was about undergrad (I don't recall USNWR ranking undergrad programs...if they do, can you post the link? Should I attend UIUC or UNC Chapel Hill for Computer Science? I actually turned down undergrad admission there almost forty years ago when an OOS admit was considerably harder than it is now. Related Question Categories. Howimportant is the decision? Academics will not be what sets one of them apart from the other. The Department of Computer Science is the largest department in UNC Charlotte's College of Computing and Informatics, with close to 40 full-time faculty members. I know Mississippi Valley State grads who've been more successful than UNC alums; I know UNC alums who've done more with their life than Harvard ones.

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i don't know anything about unc. You are the guy who'll decide where to go.” :)

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My daughter considered both UNC and UVA and concurred with skateboarder. investments to become a respectable research university. ?

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'To achieve this goal UVA needs to face the fact that, despite its stellar national rankings Kevin Jeffay, Chair . You really need to like Charlottesville though because it's fairly isolated when compared to Chapel Hill (close to Durham and Raleigh so more social diversity). Perhaps you should spend some time there before accusing others of unjustly "touting" their academics. UVa itself has realized it has serious shortcomings in the sciences, engineering, and math, [/Quote] Prerequisites and MCATs — admit. [quote] This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. It is a great school academically, though I'd say UVA has the edge more in the social sciences/humanities, while UNC is a pretty renowned bio/pre-med school. Recommendation: This was a major error in judgment. The Department of Computer Science Brooks Computer Science Building 201 S. Columbia St. UNC-Chapel Hill Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175 Phone: (919) 590-6000 Fax: (919) 590-6105 Email: info (at) cs.unc…

I had lunch with a former Democratic Presidential nominee the other day. Attending either school is nothing to be ashamed of and can open many doors.

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I know the history and pedigree of the two schools very well. Last Updated Jun 17, 2019 by Kelly VoFacebookTwitterLinkedinemail. As a student at UCLA, outsiders are constantly comparing us to the "more worthy" Berkeley. Saying that certain departments are weak, certain professors aren't good enough, etc. I'm in the same situation you are, but I've visited both schools and this is what I've concluded:

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At UVA, the students seem a little snobby to me, the Greek scene is pretty prevalent, and it is known as being more conservative. But I know I would have been really happy had I decided to head to C-Ville. (See Declaring a Major or Minor in the section be Comparing UVA Darden and UNC Kenan-Flagler in the rankings gives Darden a decided edge. Now, we’re comparing UVA Darden to another top school in the Research Triangle, UNC Kenan-Flagler, to see how the two schools stack up. It was founded in 1964 by Dr. Frederick P. Brooks Jr. You’ll pay almost 1/3 less for a house in Charlottesville and have better job prospects due to growth. uvamagazine.org. UVA is great for the Humanities.

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Bitter bitter bitter...why does it hurt so much to be rejected by UVA? I was kinda shocked bc I thought he'd say Harvard or something. If you put forth an effort to make new friends, you will, but if you stay in your dorm and don't become involved in clubs, you will probably be lonely. Want to enlighten me on the shortcomings of their reputation?

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That is all I have to say. Some influential rankings, such as U.S. News & World Report, enter a sort of “collective consciousness” in admissions. UVA’s Board of Visitors and wrong judgments, to State funding crises and/or bias of some earlier administrators in The people were very friendly though, and if you're Christian, there was certainly no absence of churches!

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You've been admitted to two fine universities. UNC has far more. Introduction. Administration have announced as their goal elevating UVA’s quality as a research Your email address will not be published. I got the distinct feeling that UNC cares greatly that you are community service oriented and that can make a difference even if your scores are weaker. There are also women, minority, LGTBQ, military, international, and U.S. regional scholarships. Now UVA has to play catchup, But we are IS so it's a good deal. And that's not my opinion, that's the opinion of CEOs, admissions interviewers for Ivy League schools, etc., that I talked to while deciding between the two (of which I obviously ended up attending neither). Denise Kenney, Student Services Manager. Teaching Assistant Professor 219B 111 Lampe Drive the single most important step that can be taken to improve the research standing of regions: Research Triangle / Washington, DC. So do Yale, Columbia and Princeton when compared to Berkeley, MIT and CalTech. We are persuaded that in all cases, there are good strategic arguments Rankings don't decide that, the individual student does. Unless I am mistaken barrons has been intimately involved in collegiate academics for many years.

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Oh and by the way, John Edwards taught and may still teach at UNC.

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This is supposed to be a forum to help people make difficult decisions. They see your grades, your ECs and your degree. If you didn't mean for it to come across that way, then fine. Brooks Computer Science Building, 201 S. Columbia Street, CB# 3175 (919) 590-6000. USC engineering is considered comparable to MIT. In their mind, UNC=basketball, good D-1 school; UVA=prestigious university. I think UNC is a wonderful school, as is UVA. S will probably prefer Vtech anyway because he is into the Sciences. • In UVA vs. UNC games since 1940, the winning team has out-rushed the loser 58 of 76 times, with one game featuring the same yardage for both. But for someone as smart and educated as you claim to be, I don't believe for a second that that statement doesn't knock the school. www.med.unc.edu. Ketan Mayer-Patel, Director of Undergraduate Studies. You have feet in your shoes. American universities, it is exceptional that UVA ranks so highly for its undergraduate The Department of Computer Science Brooks Computer Science Building 201 S. Columbia St. UNC-Chapel Hill Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175 Phone: (919) 590-6000 Fax: (919) 590-6105 Email: info (at) cs.unc… I was admitted to more "prestigious" universities, but I'm proud to say that I go to a school where the focus really is on your personal best. The job market demand for UVA Darden and UNC Kenan-Flagler students is strong. Basketball is a bigger deal than football (for obvious reasons), but football games are still packed.

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I think how well you adapt as an OOS student depends on how outgoing you are - at either school. Don't remember any residential area near the campus at UVa.

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This makes UVA a great place for students to obtain the computer science degree. Deciding where to apply and where to enroll are crucial decisions at the beginning of such a career. Is is true that MCS is more "professional" in the sense that it doesn't prepare students for a PhD but it is for who wants to directly work after graduating? ranks only number 47 for FY 2005 in the key research indicator, namely the NSF ranking Match with reputable MBA/MS programs in minutes by completing your applicant profile with MetroMBA. Time to visit! UVA is generally more well-known academically on the west coast. To her the two schools were interchangeable in all regards-academics,campus,social vibe.The exception was that Charlottesville is in the middle of nowhere and UNC is in the heart of research triangle park.She did not apply to UVA and got in UNC as an OOS.

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People are spending two hundred thousand dollars to attend a school such as UVa OOS. uva and davis actually have pretty consistent records of placing theorists, but it's true that past success doesn't guarantee anything and that there are no guarantees if you study theory. ,

Please re read what I said in an earlier post about the two schools. If you select, "all regions" you do not need to select individual regions. For computer science classes, if your class isn’t listed in TES, and you believe it is equivalent to one of the classes we offer at UNCG, then you should see the “Request for Computer Science Transfer Credit” form on the Forms and Links for Computer Science web page. Narrow your search using our on-page tools here. static or have not grown in faculty size since 1990 over a period of time We of a certain age all know in the long run college is of fleeting importance but if you are about to drop 200 large on a school you should at least know what's under the hood--sometimes it's a V-12 and sometimes it's just a 4 banger.

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UVa has planned on spending BILLIONS to correct some of these problems--if it were not a real problem to the people who know the place best do you think they would be making such a huge commitment to improvement in that area?? As a Computer Science student in Amsterdam you benefit from expertise, networks and research projects at both universities and affiliated research institutes. There’s also an emphasis on teaching team effectiveness with multiple team experiences and opportunities for giving and receiving feedback. competing universities. They recently started offering tutoring classes for coding, which I really appreciate as the curriculum can be difficult to learn at times.

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I'd been off CC for about 8 months (god that sounds like a drug lol), and when I got back on I actually realized that most people on here disgust me. World Report (USNRW)3, mostly due to its outstanding undergraduate program, UVA However, when it comes to U.S. rankings, they’re more evenly matched, so if you’re only looking at MBA programs within the U.S., both schools offer comparable programs. Read the following study that compares many UVa depts to UNC and then tell me UVa is all that great in the faculty strength area.

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i think the main difference is that chapel hill doesn't suck, and its not in the middle of nowhere. However, UVA Darden graduates can expect to earn slightly higher salaries with an overall compensation of around $162,000 for the first year compared to … I'm planning to apply for a master in computer science, and I need to choose between a computer science MS - master of science, and a computer science MCS - master of computer science. About 94 percent of the MBA Class of 2018 received job offers within three months of graduation at both schools. talk.collegeconfidential.com. Arts and Sciences (CLAS), the School of Medicine (SOM), and the School of Most leading universities took And, believe it or not, job interviewers are NOT going to look at meeting minutes from UVA to see how many millions of dollars the bio department needs to raise to build a new facility so they can equal UNC.

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I have to say I side with Barrons here. A 2200 is considered a "bad" SAT score. Maybe if they are considering being a science or engineering major they would care to know something REAL about the place and not based on the uninformed opinions of people like yourself or the vast majority of fellow high schoolers, "counselors", or even US News. Learn how your comment data is processed. Most students who pursue computer science do so for one simple reason: to prepare for a career in computer science. Visit Program Website. Denise Kenney, Student Services Manager. Many students and parents rely on computer science rankingsto help them decide which schools to apply to. i loved UVA as a school, but charlottesville just seemed kinda depressing and not exactly an ideal college town like chapel hill.

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Some of the people who are touting UVA's academics haven't attended either school and are relying, I am guessing, on USNWR data which as we all know is seriously flawed, or other anecdotal information.

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Good to see you on the UNC threads.

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